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		<title>Comment on Video &#8211; Ripper stalks London&#8217;s streets&#8230; by Demolition freak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demolition freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very bad for your machine so much shocks and also for the ripper self also. And it is difficult to hear, but i also experienced a similar demonstration from this ripper. It makes lot of noise and also vibrations for surroundings. And other &#039;problem&#039; is that your iron is not clean from concreat and still need pulverising. So for this kind of applications it is not a usefull tool and still concrete shear is best solution. But for road building and mining projects it is absolutely a very perfect sollution and better than hammer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very bad for your machine so much shocks and also for the ripper self also. And it is difficult to hear, but i also experienced a similar demonstration from this ripper. It makes lot of noise and also vibrations for surroundings. And other &#8216;problem&#8217; is that your iron is not clean from concreat and still need pulverising. So for this kind of applications it is not a usefull tool and still concrete shear is best solution. But for road building and mining projects it is absolutely a very perfect sollution and better than hammer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Video &#8211; St Paul smokestack implosion&#8230; by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there is some unfortunate footage of debris being removed from the road isn&#039;t there...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there is some unfortunate footage of debris being removed from the road isn&#8217;t there&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Video &#8211; St Paul smokestack implosion&#8230; by Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/02/03/video-st-paul-smokestack-implosion/comment-page-1/#comment-4772</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL The contractor went to all the trouble to haul in the dirt to build berms to cushion the impact and the chimney missed them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL The contractor went to all the trouble to haul in the dirt to build berms to cushion the impact and the chimney missed them!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/01/31/comment-%e2%80%93-down-for-the-count/comment-page-1/#comment-4771</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,

I received Brent’s latest response in the early hours of the morning (UK time) and it certainly gave me pause, so I decided to sleep on what he had said.   And I have awoken this morning feeling no less chastened.

With the benefit of hindsight, likening the US demolition industry to a serial killer WAS sensationalist and for that I apologise unreservedly.

However, as Oliver points out above, four people WERE killed.   As someone who is dedicated to gathering and delivering demolition news, am I expected to ignore four deaths?   Am I supposed to overlook the fact that they followed in such quick succession?   Am I supposed to present the industry with a positive sugar-coating when we all know just how dangerous this industry can be?   

Surely to do so would be failing in my vocation every bit as much as failing to safely and effectively demolish a building would be in yours.

As for the suggestion that I stop writing about the demolition business, if I thought that in so doing it might save an industry life, I would pull the plug on my PC now and close DemolitionNews with immediate effect.

Since that is not the case, I shall continue to report the news as it happens, and to commentate when I feel appropriate.   But you have my personal assurance that I shall rein in the sensationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,</p>
<p>I received Brent’s latest response in the early hours of the morning (UK time) and it certainly gave me pause, so I decided to sleep on what he had said.   And I have awoken this morning feeling no less chastened.</p>
<p>With the benefit of hindsight, likening the US demolition industry to a serial killer WAS sensationalist and for that I apologise unreservedly.</p>
<p>However, as Oliver points out above, four people WERE killed.   As someone who is dedicated to gathering and delivering demolition news, am I expected to ignore four deaths?   Am I supposed to overlook the fact that they followed in such quick succession?   Am I supposed to present the industry with a positive sugar-coating when we all know just how dangerous this industry can be?   </p>
<p>Surely to do so would be failing in my vocation every bit as much as failing to safely and effectively demolish a building would be in yours.</p>
<p>As for the suggestion that I stop writing about the demolition business, if I thought that in so doing it might save an industry life, I would pull the plug on my PC now and close DemolitionNews with immediate effect.</p>
<p>Since that is not the case, I shall continue to report the news as it happens, and to commentate when I feel appropriate.   But you have my personal assurance that I shall rein in the sensationalism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by Oliver James</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/01/31/comment-%e2%80%93-down-for-the-count/comment-page-1/#comment-4770</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brent&#039;s assertion that the headline and the Jack the Ripper comparisons were sensationalist.
But, the fact remains that at the heart of this story is an undeniable truth - four people died.
DemolitionNews needs to tone down its stance; but let&#039;s not shoot the messenger here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brent&#8217;s assertion that the headline and the Jack the Ripper comparisons were sensationalist.<br />
But, the fact remains that at the heart of this story is an undeniable truth &#8211; four people died.<br />
DemolitionNews needs to tone down its stance; but let&#8217;s not shoot the messenger here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by Brent Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/01/31/comment-%e2%80%93-down-for-the-count/comment-page-1/#comment-4769</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys please forgive me. I don&#039;t visit this site often, and as such have been commenting thus far on the assumption that the above opinion-torial was a stand-alone posting, and that the main topic was industry consensus-building and profitability.  Only a few minutes ago was I pointed towards other recent articles posted by this author, after asking a colleague why David was addressing &quot;serial killers&quot; in his comment above.

Holy shit, I am completely astonished by the irresponsibility displayed in these repeated editorial attacks on &quot;the US demolition industry&quot;.  

Rather than get all defensive, or rah-rah USA, or pick apart all the cheap-shot recklessness line by painful line (as tempting as that is), I&#039;m going to refrain from direct critique in exchange for a general observation:

As tempting as the writer finds it to sensationalistically portray them as such, the US and European (and Chinese etc) demolition industries are not singular monolithic breathing beasts devoid of morals and capable of malicious callousness.  Each of the industry&#039;s millions of daily individual successes and failures have their own unique circumstances, and spouting off when more failures than one can tolerate occurs in a news cycle is extremely disingenuous.  Without knowing the full circumstances of each incident, one has no idea whether more regulation or seminars or rosary beads would have made any difference at all. 

News flash-- demolition is inherently one of the most dangerous occupations on the planet, and nobody tries harder to mitigate that danger than the folks whose lives are at risk every day. And it will still be the most dangerous tomorrow.  Lessons will be learned.  Human mistakes will happen again.  But it&#039;s obvious to me that anyone writing the line &quot;The US demo industry&#039;s killing of four innocent individuals blah blah&quot; is devoid of basic common sense and doesn&#039;t have the stomach for demolition so I&#039;d recommend this writer consider getting out of it.  I simply can&#039;t believe someone wrote an article titled &quot;Demolition Industry: Stop This Serial Killer.&quot;  There is no softening or backing off of that charge possible.

But please, wax on about &#039;robust initiatives&#039; and &#039;enhancing environmental friendliness&#039; and &#039;reducing administrative burden zzzzz...&quot;.  That&#039;s all terribly interesting stuff with Jack The Ripper as the backdrop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys please forgive me. I don&#8217;t visit this site often, and as such have been commenting thus far on the assumption that the above opinion-torial was a stand-alone posting, and that the main topic was industry consensus-building and profitability.  Only a few minutes ago was I pointed towards other recent articles posted by this author, after asking a colleague why David was addressing &#8220;serial killers&#8221; in his comment above.</p>
<p>Holy shit, I am completely astonished by the irresponsibility displayed in these repeated editorial attacks on &#8220;the US demolition industry&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Rather than get all defensive, or rah-rah USA, or pick apart all the cheap-shot recklessness line by painful line (as tempting as that is), I&#8217;m going to refrain from direct critique in exchange for a general observation:</p>
<p>As tempting as the writer finds it to sensationalistically portray them as such, the US and European (and Chinese etc) demolition industries are not singular monolithic breathing beasts devoid of morals and capable of malicious callousness.  Each of the industry&#8217;s millions of daily individual successes and failures have their own unique circumstances, and spouting off when more failures than one can tolerate occurs in a news cycle is extremely disingenuous.  Without knowing the full circumstances of each incident, one has no idea whether more regulation or seminars or rosary beads would have made any difference at all. </p>
<p>News flash&#8211; demolition is inherently one of the most dangerous occupations on the planet, and nobody tries harder to mitigate that danger than the folks whose lives are at risk every day. And it will still be the most dangerous tomorrow.  Lessons will be learned.  Human mistakes will happen again.  But it&#8217;s obvious to me that anyone writing the line &#8220;The US demo industry&#8217;s killing of four innocent individuals blah blah&#8221; is devoid of basic common sense and doesn&#8217;t have the stomach for demolition so I&#8217;d recommend this writer consider getting out of it.  I simply can&#8217;t believe someone wrote an article titled &#8220;Demolition Industry: Stop This Serial Killer.&#8221;  There is no softening or backing off of that charge possible.</p>
<p>But please, wax on about &#8216;robust initiatives&#8217; and &#8216;enhancing environmental friendliness&#8217; and &#8216;reducing administrative burden zzzzz&#8230;&#8221;.  That&#8217;s all terribly interesting stuff with Jack The Ripper as the backdrop.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really is nothing that I can add to such a detailed summary of the similarities and differences between the US and UK demolition industries.   For all my bluster, I am merely a commentator while David Sinclair (and his like) are there at the sharp end and are, therefore, better informed and more experienced than I could ever hope to be.
All I hope is that the continuing debate might just prompt some demolition professionals to take that one extra look at what they&#039;re doing and in so doing avoid the tragic circumstances that befell David&#039;s brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really is nothing that I can add to such a detailed summary of the similarities and differences between the US and UK demolition industries.   For all my bluster, I am merely a commentator while David Sinclair (and his like) are there at the sharp end and are, therefore, better informed and more experienced than I could ever hope to be.<br />
All I hope is that the continuing debate might just prompt some demolition professionals to take that one extra look at what they&#8217;re doing and in so doing avoid the tragic circumstances that befell David&#8217;s brother.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by David Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/01/31/comment-%e2%80%93-down-for-the-count/comment-page-1/#comment-4767</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Demolition News

My final comments related to this particular debate that has gone from &quot;Serial Killers&quot; to the recommendation the NDA should follow in the footsteps of the NFDC &#039;almost&#039; on a chapter and verse basis. 

As a Past President of the NFDC and when in my very active NFDC years progress indeed was made on establishing much all with the intention to assist the membership at large and the NFDC today is no different. As a group of business men the NFDC Council continually discuss means and methods of how we can improve our image to the demolition industries client base on a &quot;we are the people&quot; basis, &quot;the voice of the industry&quot; and so on. 
The NFDC of recent years remains very  active trying always to put the best NFDC foot forward. 

In the past, Politics have played a big part on a who was who basis to the NFDC. This point is confirmed by who the invited &quot;guest of honor&quot; would be at the top table at AGMs&#039;, annual conventions, regional dances, one day seminars and so on, there was always a &#039;political&#039; someone of importance there or there abouts. We Brits just do things a little bit more formal than our NDA counterparts but I can inform you all, the ways and means of the NDA may well be different but are as every bit effective, if not that little bit more so. 

What are we really talking about here, on both sides of the pond it is called marketing. The Brit., Demo Companies have been for many years now under the kind of &quot;big brother is watching you&quot; situation, bombarded by legislation from many fronts and all at the same time and especially over the last 10 years. The British Demolition Indusrty has been more than influenced by much bureaucracy and all I can say for and on behalf of the NFDC membership is &quot;thank God for Howard Button and the NFDC Staff at Resurgam House who sift their way through all the the paper work to find out what is relevent or otherwise to the NFDC members. 

Because of the bureaucratic influence in the U.K. industries in general have tailored there marketing efforts accordingly and to be seen to be complying and more with legislation and so on is an absolute must. 

In the US, not quite so, here the Demo Contractor business man has more scope, more freedom and flexibility to market his company with of course all of what is required by EPA and OSHA very much in mind and also with what is not such a difficult thing to do, to conform to State Laws and regulations and so on where ever he may be working. It is not the same I can assure you all, the US Demo Contractor does not have the same administration costs and overhead that a U.K. Demo Contractor has to have just to stay in front with mandatory paper work.

Mike Taylor and his NDA team at Doylestown, PA do a similar job to that of Howard Button and the NFDC, Resurgam House staff and fortunately for the NDA members the work done by Mike and team includes a greater element of information distribution of NDA marketing material to what is after all a very much larger market place. 

The NDA have an excellent available library of Training Manuals, Training DVDs&#039; and they run training seminars here and there throughout the US. All good stuff and I am pleased to say all created on the basis of  NDA ideas and with assistance here and there I am sure through collaboration between NFDC, NDA, EDA and IDE and that is the way it should be.

If you ever have the opportunity to listen to Bill Moore make a presentation on Brandenburg Industries, preplanning of a job, the safety measures developed specific to each operation, the means and method of work, the specially adapted demo equipment and right down to the companies own design for safety boots, you will appreciate what I mean when I say in the US they have more scope. Bill&#039;s presentations are informative, factual and express the freedom of the US &quot; Demo Contractor&quot; to develop a wee bit out of the box but still maintaining the necessary high safety factors at all times and all done without having to be overseen by a Construction Design Management Co-ordinator.

In conclusion, nobody and certainly not one of our associations / federation member companies, who all work damn hard to be that wee bit better, to be professional and to minimise demolition related accidents in the field, ever want to be categorised as &quot;Serial Killers&quot;. 

This I have to say has touched a very sensitive nerve in my body. January 22, 1975, when both my older brother Jim and I were called out one stormy night in Glasgow by the local authority Building Control Dept., to take care of a building that had become dangerous due to the storm. We were asked to do something to make the building sufficiently safe to allow the narrow street where the building was located to be re-opened to traffic. My brother and I arrived at the site and as we approached the building to see what could be done, the entire front wall of the four storey building without warning collapsed. My brother Jim, 32 years old, was killed instantly, I did not receive one scratch on my body. I haved spared Jim a thought every day of my life and I vowed to work hard to try from there on in to improve safety in the demolition industry. 

Accidents will happen and we must  learn from them whether the company involved is a member of an association / federation or otherwise.

I have said my final word in this debate.

Sincerely
David P. Sinclair F.I.D.E.
Past President NFDC
Past President EDA
Former Board Member NDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Demolition News</p>
<p>My final comments related to this particular debate that has gone from &#8220;Serial Killers&#8221; to the recommendation the NDA should follow in the footsteps of the NFDC &#8216;almost&#8217; on a chapter and verse basis. </p>
<p>As a Past President of the NFDC and when in my very active NFDC years progress indeed was made on establishing much all with the intention to assist the membership at large and the NFDC today is no different. As a group of business men the NFDC Council continually discuss means and methods of how we can improve our image to the demolition industries client base on a &#8220;we are the people&#8221; basis, &#8220;the voice of the industry&#8221; and so on.<br />
The NFDC of recent years remains very  active trying always to put the best NFDC foot forward. </p>
<p>In the past, Politics have played a big part on a who was who basis to the NFDC. This point is confirmed by who the invited &#8220;guest of honor&#8221; would be at the top table at AGMs&#8217;, annual conventions, regional dances, one day seminars and so on, there was always a &#8216;political&#8217; someone of importance there or there abouts. We Brits just do things a little bit more formal than our NDA counterparts but I can inform you all, the ways and means of the NDA may well be different but are as every bit effective, if not that little bit more so. </p>
<p>What are we really talking about here, on both sides of the pond it is called marketing. The Brit., Demo Companies have been for many years now under the kind of &#8220;big brother is watching you&#8221; situation, bombarded by legislation from many fronts and all at the same time and especially over the last 10 years. The British Demolition Indusrty has been more than influenced by much bureaucracy and all I can say for and on behalf of the NFDC membership is &#8220;thank God for Howard Button and the NFDC Staff at Resurgam House who sift their way through all the the paper work to find out what is relevent or otherwise to the NFDC members. </p>
<p>Because of the bureaucratic influence in the U.K. industries in general have tailored there marketing efforts accordingly and to be seen to be complying and more with legislation and so on is an absolute must. </p>
<p>In the US, not quite so, here the Demo Contractor business man has more scope, more freedom and flexibility to market his company with of course all of what is required by EPA and OSHA very much in mind and also with what is not such a difficult thing to do, to conform to State Laws and regulations and so on where ever he may be working. It is not the same I can assure you all, the US Demo Contractor does not have the same administration costs and overhead that a U.K. Demo Contractor has to have just to stay in front with mandatory paper work.</p>
<p>Mike Taylor and his NDA team at Doylestown, PA do a similar job to that of Howard Button and the NFDC, Resurgam House staff and fortunately for the NDA members the work done by Mike and team includes a greater element of information distribution of NDA marketing material to what is after all a very much larger market place. </p>
<p>The NDA have an excellent available library of Training Manuals, Training DVDs&#8217; and they run training seminars here and there throughout the US. All good stuff and I am pleased to say all created on the basis of  NDA ideas and with assistance here and there I am sure through collaboration between NFDC, NDA, EDA and IDE and that is the way it should be.</p>
<p>If you ever have the opportunity to listen to Bill Moore make a presentation on Brandenburg Industries, preplanning of a job, the safety measures developed specific to each operation, the means and method of work, the specially adapted demo equipment and right down to the companies own design for safety boots, you will appreciate what I mean when I say in the US they have more scope. Bill&#8217;s presentations are informative, factual and express the freedom of the US &#8221; Demo Contractor&#8221; to develop a wee bit out of the box but still maintaining the necessary high safety factors at all times and all done without having to be overseen by a Construction Design Management Co-ordinator.</p>
<p>In conclusion, nobody and certainly not one of our associations / federation member companies, who all work damn hard to be that wee bit better, to be professional and to minimise demolition related accidents in the field, ever want to be categorised as &#8220;Serial Killers&#8221;. </p>
<p>This I have to say has touched a very sensitive nerve in my body. January 22, 1975, when both my older brother Jim and I were called out one stormy night in Glasgow by the local authority Building Control Dept., to take care of a building that had become dangerous due to the storm. We were asked to do something to make the building sufficiently safe to allow the narrow street where the building was located to be re-opened to traffic. My brother and I arrived at the site and as we approached the building to see what could be done, the entire front wall of the four storey building without warning collapsed. My brother Jim, 32 years old, was killed instantly, I did not receive one scratch on my body. I haved spared Jim a thought every day of my life and I vowed to work hard to try from there on in to improve safety in the demolition industry. </p>
<p>Accidents will happen and we must  learn from them whether the company involved is a member of an association / federation or otherwise.</p>
<p>I have said my final word in this debate.</p>
<p>Sincerely<br />
David P. Sinclair F.I.D.E.<br />
Past President NFDC<br />
Past President EDA<br />
Former Board Member NDA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me start by saying that the NFDC and the NDA have a long and well-established information sharing relationship that stretches back many years; a special relationship, if you will.   Senior officers of the NDA regularly attend NFDC functions and vice versa.
In answer to your main question regarding the lessons learned here that might be applicable there, the NFDC has set in place a long-term and multi-faceted campaign to differentiate its members from those demolition companies operating outside the Federation.
Following a mandate from those members, Howard Button has worked extremely hard to make inroads into the UK Contractors Group (UKCG), an amalgam of the UK’s largest construction companies.   Today, the NFDC is an integral part of the UKCG and is able to help steer policy and procurement.
When UK construction companies and local authorities demanded a higher degree of worker competence, the NFDC’s training arm – the National Demolition Training Group – set in place a set of training initiatives that not only matched but exceeded the demands of the construction companies.   This was (and still is) backed by a nationwide advertising campaign that highlights not just the difference between an earthmoving equipment operator and a demolition equipment operator but also that the demolition qualification is, in fact, more robust than its construction counterpart.
The environment (carbon footprint reduction and waste minimisation) has been a key topic in the UK for the past decade.   And once again the NFDC has taken the lead, producing a set of annual waste returns that prove that its members recycle or reuse an AVERAGE of 95% of all arisings.   For construction companies, local authorities and other clients looking to enhance the overall environmental friendliness of a project, working with an NFDC member is seen as a key advantage.
In addition to its Annual Convention, the Federation also runs a series of regional Demolition Day events to which clients and decision makers are invited.   A day of high quality technical presentations not only helps keep NFDC members informed but also demonstrates that the NFDC – and, therefore, its members – are at the very forefront of legislation, technology and the environment.
But the biggest step forward for the NFDC has unquestionably been its adoption of the Accredited Site Audit Scheme; a detailed, third-party audit of a member’s site or sites that is now a pre-requisite of membership.   This audit analyses just about every aspect of a working site from the working practices and methods to the paperwork, insurance details and site administration systems.   More recently, this has been cross-mapped to what is fast becoming the accepted form of pre-qualification procurement in the UK construction business.   As a result, NFDC members are effectively pre-qualified by their very membership.
Of course, the NFDC isn’t infallible and accidents still happen.   But the Federation’s willingness to suspend a member while an investigation (over and above that carried out the Health and Safety Executive) further marks the distinction of Federation members.
As a result of this long and ongoing campaign, NFDC members are now perceived as the most professional, trained and experienced, the most closely scrutinised and monitored, the most environmentally-friendly and the best informed in the UK demolition business.
And has it worked?   According to our figures, there are roughly 550 companies involved in the UK demolition business to one degree or another, of which only 160 (or so) are NFDC members.   And yet those 160 members account for roughly 90% of all demolition undertaken in the UK each year.
Undoubtedly, the procurement process in the US would be different.   The current US attitude to waste minimisation differs from that of the UK and Europe.   The Brits rarely have to concern themselves with differences in state law.   And I am not suggesting for one minute that UK contractors are happy with the amount they&#039;re currently earning.
But, like it has done with the publication of specific sets of guidance and the creation and delivery of specific training standards, the NFDC has pioneered a client-facing approach for the good of its members.   And in the spirit of the longstanding information sharing relationship between the US and the UK, it is my belief that the lessons learned here should at least be on the table for discussion the next time the transatlantic partners gather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start by saying that the NFDC and the NDA have a long and well-established information sharing relationship that stretches back many years; a special relationship, if you will.   Senior officers of the NDA regularly attend NFDC functions and vice versa.<br />
In answer to your main question regarding the lessons learned here that might be applicable there, the NFDC has set in place a long-term and multi-faceted campaign to differentiate its members from those demolition companies operating outside the Federation.<br />
Following a mandate from those members, Howard Button has worked extremely hard to make inroads into the UK Contractors Group (UKCG), an amalgam of the UK’s largest construction companies.   Today, the NFDC is an integral part of the UKCG and is able to help steer policy and procurement.<br />
When UK construction companies and local authorities demanded a higher degree of worker competence, the NFDC’s training arm – the National Demolition Training Group – set in place a set of training initiatives that not only matched but exceeded the demands of the construction companies.   This was (and still is) backed by a nationwide advertising campaign that highlights not just the difference between an earthmoving equipment operator and a demolition equipment operator but also that the demolition qualification is, in fact, more robust than its construction counterpart.<br />
The environment (carbon footprint reduction and waste minimisation) has been a key topic in the UK for the past decade.   And once again the NFDC has taken the lead, producing a set of annual waste returns that prove that its members recycle or reuse an AVERAGE of 95% of all arisings.   For construction companies, local authorities and other clients looking to enhance the overall environmental friendliness of a project, working with an NFDC member is seen as a key advantage.<br />
In addition to its Annual Convention, the Federation also runs a series of regional Demolition Day events to which clients and decision makers are invited.   A day of high quality technical presentations not only helps keep NFDC members informed but also demonstrates that the NFDC – and, therefore, its members – are at the very forefront of legislation, technology and the environment.<br />
But the biggest step forward for the NFDC has unquestionably been its adoption of the Accredited Site Audit Scheme; a detailed, third-party audit of a member’s site or sites that is now a pre-requisite of membership.   This audit analyses just about every aspect of a working site from the working practices and methods to the paperwork, insurance details and site administration systems.   More recently, this has been cross-mapped to what is fast becoming the accepted form of pre-qualification procurement in the UK construction business.   As a result, NFDC members are effectively pre-qualified by their very membership.<br />
Of course, the NFDC isn’t infallible and accidents still happen.   But the Federation’s willingness to suspend a member while an investigation (over and above that carried out the Health and Safety Executive) further marks the distinction of Federation members.<br />
As a result of this long and ongoing campaign, NFDC members are now perceived as the most professional, trained and experienced, the most closely scrutinised and monitored, the most environmentally-friendly and the best informed in the UK demolition business.<br />
And has it worked?   According to our figures, there are roughly 550 companies involved in the UK demolition business to one degree or another, of which only 160 (or so) are NFDC members.   And yet those 160 members account for roughly 90% of all demolition undertaken in the UK each year.<br />
Undoubtedly, the procurement process in the US would be different.   The current US attitude to waste minimisation differs from that of the UK and Europe.   The Brits rarely have to concern themselves with differences in state law.   And I am not suggesting for one minute that UK contractors are happy with the amount they&#8217;re currently earning.<br />
But, like it has done with the publication of specific sets of guidance and the creation and delivery of specific training standards, the NFDC has pioneered a client-facing approach for the good of its members.   And in the spirit of the longstanding information sharing relationship between the US and the UK, it is my belief that the lessons learned here should at least be on the table for discussion the next time the transatlantic partners gather.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comment – Down for the count&#8230;? by Brent Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://www.demolitionnews.com/2012/01/31/comment-%e2%80%93-down-for-the-count/comment-page-1/#comment-4765</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming there is no rift between NFDC and NDA regarding who implements what, and that both groups have members who share safety and legalese-paperwork info willingly with the other.  
That said, I&#039;d be interested in understanding how the NFDC liases with clients to help maximize their members&#039; bottom line in a tangible, verifiable way without appearing partisan towards any bidder.  
Speaking candidly in the hopes this dialog somehow proves beneficial, in the US every last bidder promotes themselves as the &quot;best in the business&quot;.  The ones with dodgy ethics or safety records (or both) fabricate what they can get away with and conveniently omit their black marks (and I know this happens on both sides of the ocean because I&#039;ve seen it).  
Regardless, almost every client beats up the bidders for lowest price.  There is little if any leverage being held by contractors for &#039;quality&#039;.  Sure clients want &#039;green&#039; and &#039;extra value&#039; and a sweet trade-industry reference and any other niceties, but they want it all at a price-match of the lowest bidder.  With very few exceptions that&#039;s the reality of the US market, and I&#039;m not sure who would disagree with this assessment.  
It&#039;s not a question of good or bad, it&#039;s simply what the market dictates these days.
So how can reputable contractors avoid being punched and realize fair value in this climate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming there is no rift between NFDC and NDA regarding who implements what, and that both groups have members who share safety and legalese-paperwork info willingly with the other.<br />
That said, I&#8217;d be interested in understanding how the NFDC liases with clients to help maximize their members&#8217; bottom line in a tangible, verifiable way without appearing partisan towards any bidder.<br />
Speaking candidly in the hopes this dialog somehow proves beneficial, in the US every last bidder promotes themselves as the &#8220;best in the business&#8221;.  The ones with dodgy ethics or safety records (or both) fabricate what they can get away with and conveniently omit their black marks (and I know this happens on both sides of the ocean because I&#8217;ve seen it).<br />
Regardless, almost every client beats up the bidders for lowest price.  There is little if any leverage being held by contractors for &#8216;quality&#8217;.  Sure clients want &#8216;green&#8217; and &#8216;extra value&#8217; and a sweet trade-industry reference and any other niceties, but they want it all at a price-match of the lowest bidder.  With very few exceptions that&#8217;s the reality of the US market, and I&#8217;m not sure who would disagree with this assessment.<br />
It&#8217;s not a question of good or bad, it&#8217;s simply what the market dictates these days.<br />
So how can reputable contractors avoid being punched and realize fair value in this climate?</p>
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